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Subject: Re: Upcoming Unreal Alpha and Beta versions release

Post Posted: 05 Jan 2011, 23:22

Frieza wrote:Completely missed this thread before, but yeah it's pretty obvious that guy was just making stuff up and then he conveniently lost it all in a flood...


He had them, but he moved house and they got destroyed in a flood (He linked me to the news report)

He knew way too much about the game to NOT have had them...he even sent me one of the music files from a 1996 beta (Isotoxin I believe)

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Subject: Re: Upcoming Unreal Alpha and Beta versions release

Post Posted: 05 Jan 2011, 23:25

Full version of Isotoxin? After all it's a Necros track that got into the game...
Knew too much =/= truth. I could hardly believe some of that stuff.
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Subject: Re: Upcoming Unreal Alpha and Beta versions release

Post Posted: 06 Jan 2011, 00:38

Lol, well we all know about this old gun, but the quad-barreled gun for Bullet Storm is literally meant to be Unreal's quadshot in disguise. It's actually stated somewhere in a vid., talking about CliffyB's desire for having the gun in Unreal, even though it was never finished for the final game. Some of this stuff, like the skaarj hybrid stuff, certainly could have been a concept for Unreal when it was first being made, but was removed when the concept of the game was changed to what we know from the final release. Then someone brought it up for UT or something and it was eventually made to suit. Just a thought.
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Subject: Re: Upcoming Unreal Alpha and Beta versions release

Post Posted: 06 Jan 2011, 10:28

Gizzy wrote:
Frieza wrote:Completely missed this thread before, but yeah it's pretty obvious that guy was just making stuff up and then he conveniently lost it all in a flood...


He had them, but he moved house and they got destroyed in a flood (He linked me to the news report)

He knew way too much about the game to NOT have had them...he even sent me one of the music files from a 1996 beta (Isotoxin I believe)


Again that proves nothing, you can easily get the old unedited 1996 version of Isotoxin from http://modarchive.org/index.php?request ... uery=46539 for instance.

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Subject: Re: Upcoming Unreal Alpha and Beta versions release

Post Posted: 06 Jan 2011, 13:21

Jet v4.3.5 wrote:Lol, well we all know about this old gun, but the quad-barreled gun for Bullet Storm is literally meant to be Unreal's quadshot in disguise. It's actually stated somewhere in a vid., talking about CliffyB's desire for having the gun in Unreal, even though it was never finished for the final game.


Where is this video?!

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Subject: Re: Upcoming Unreal Alpha and Beta versions release

Post Posted: 06 Jan 2011, 13:31

You can watch the whole thing but the point I'm referring to comes at 2:05 where Tanya states some factual trivia on the gun that's being used in the scene in the clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKVbNDLHCKw
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Subject: Re: Upcoming Unreal Alpha and Beta versions release

Post Posted: 07 Jan 2011, 01:37

Frieza wrote:
Gizzy wrote:
Frieza wrote:Completely missed this thread before, but yeah it's pretty obvious that guy was just making stuff up and then he conveniently lost it all in a flood...


He had them, but he moved house and they got destroyed in a flood (He linked me to the news report)

He knew way too much about the game to NOT have had them...he even sent me one of the music files from a 1996 beta (Isotoxin I believe)


Again that proves nothing, you can easily get the old unedited 1996 version of Isotoxin from http://modarchive.org/index.php?request ... uery=46539 for instance.


No sound on my laptop, I'll have to listen to it another time.

Now you mention it...I never saw any physical proof that he owned them. He hasn't been on MSN for some time (rl issues and such I think) but I will certainly press him for some more info when he returns.

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Subject: Re: Upcoming Unreal Alpha and Beta versions release

Post Posted: 07 Jan 2011, 07:36

Oh nice...she mentions the Quadshot from U1...that's awesome lol.

EDIT: btw game looks pretty badass ^^

EDIT2: Realized what I said was totally pointless, since that was the point of showing the video lol...I never read anything :lol:
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Subject: Re: Upcoming Unreal Alpha and Beta versions release

Post Posted: 07 Jan 2011, 10:37

Oh man why you posted that video
thanks god I am in year 2011 at least.
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Subject: Re: Upcoming Unreal Alpha and Beta versions release

Post Posted: 07 Jan 2011, 12:15

Seeing that video made me realise how bad i need a new graphic card,or even better,a whole new pc. -_- Thats she mentions the Quadshot from U1 is awesome but she doesnt know about Unreal 227,because she says they never actualy made the gun in U1.

BAH: i seriously need a new Graphic card. :x (TBH: the Unreal Engine is becomming nearly as detailed as the Cryengine 3,because Crysis 2 and Bulletstorm have the same beatiful Enviroment.) The only downside of the Unreal Engine is that is uses Nvidea Physics,while i got an ATI card. :(
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Subject: Re: Upcoming Unreal Alpha and Beta versions release

Post Posted: 07 Jan 2011, 12:45

Epic never completed the Quadshot - the community did, although not with the original idea. But it's still a terrible weapon in Unreal.

It's not like they take anything 227 into their account anyway.
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Subject: Re: Upcoming Unreal Alpha and Beta versions release

Post Posted: 15 Jan 2011, 01:37

NaliSlayer wrote:Seeing that video made me realise how bad i need a new graphic card,or even better,a whole new pc. -_- Thats she mentions the Quadshot from U1 is awesome but she doesnt know about Unreal 227,because she says they never actualy made the gun in U1.

BAH: i seriously need a new Graphic card. :x (TBH: the Unreal Engine is becomming nearly as detailed as the Cryengine 3,because Crysis 2 and Bulletstorm have the same beatiful Enviroment.) The only downside of the Unreal Engine is that is uses Nvidea Physics,while i got an ATI card. :(


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Subject: Re: Upcoming Unreal Alpha and Beta versions release

Post Posted: 26 Jan 2011, 01:56

By the way, I wanted to say that most of the info that turned out to be true was already known, or some story details. But I very much doubt that there really was the upcoming release of the betas, as for the U2 content that was more believable but then most of it was known from the leaked alpha tech demo(which even included skaarj glove as well) and other material like the FAQs...
Skaarj were never supposed to speak English, well in Unreal books there is this Vrenic language they sometimes use, which is universal galaxy language, so theoretically it is possible it was translated like that before the book came out and the book was based on beta as it shows the FHUB4 being called Rostivelt lake, which is used as a main place for nali resistance. (yeah ONP wasn't all that original) And Zora has called it resistance lake in her conversion, she must have read the book. I have only one book, the prophet's power for now.

However we will find out if anything that wasn't confirmed before will turn out to be true. I have played 98 beta, I think march Unreal build back in 98. And well I still remmeber it even though i didn't play much of it, but I remember all the differences and there wasn't really anything like that what the guy who claimed to have the betas was. I don't know if I will ever find the guys who had that build, but it is possible. Funny that people I knew IRL seem harder to contact than ones I don't.
Anyway also there will be perhaps recovered some alphas and betas in near future, I've got some real contacts (unlike RMFX, who was only going around and around and never revealed anything useful to me or failed to talk to me or tell me who his contacts were) who might have them still. By the way, the thing we recognize as 96 alpha etc, was actually called beta back then, because the game was suposed to be released soon. So anyone who calls them alpha is technically wrong.
But if this gets released or recovered, we will see if RMFX lied or not for sure, although don't count on it soon to get the march 98 build released(the one I played), or ever, that one is vague.

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Subject: Re: Upcoming Unreal Alpha and Beta versions release

Post Posted: 27 Jan 2011, 16:56

Screw the 450, get the GTX 460. Better bang for buck.
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Subject: Re: Upcoming Unreal Alpha and Beta versions release

Post Posted: 15 Feb 2011, 17:42

[offtop] I've got GTX 470 320 bit with 1280 GDDR5. Combined with I7 930 there's nothing I can't run with less than 50 fps. And believe me, I tried :D [/offtop]

nO! Sorry, Crysis in full HD was bit glitchy (dunno why, cos UDK Day and Night map was not).

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