I have just played through the Shivaxi's mappack, and I wonder why have you given it a higher score than some of the many other old mappacks, for an example even Last Escape from Na Pali.
The review as seen in here: http://www.unrealsp.org/community/revie ... scape.html
There is no innovation in Shivaxi's pack, some of the corridors are really badly pasted and overlapping, the stuff and even the flashlight has been used at some Unreal coop servers. It is not like it was made for the pack.
I have also noticed some details like the ship in the intro is actually the ship found underwater in FHub4 in Unreal Beta version. It looked like the ship is new....
Do you have any justice in you anymore? I sometimes wonder so...
Perhaps you do have it from your favorite Harry Potter books, or I really don't know.
Pardon me Scrag?
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- Mick.B
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Subject: Pardon me Scrag?
Post Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 03:40
- Buff Skeleton
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Post Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 04:30
Oh no THREE WHOLE PERCENT more than another map pack?! HOW COULD HE
Seriously have you even put the slightest amount of thought into this thread, or are you just trying to find some excuse to bitch at Scrag for what I can only assume is some personal vendetta? You go from harping about the score of a map to making personal character judgments in about a paragraph's worth of text.
Further, did you actually even play shivaxi's pack or, heaven forbid, read the readme? He acknowledges where he got the material and never claimed it was his own. And I don't know where you get the idea that it has no innovation just because he's used some assets and some geometry from other places. I won't say the pack is great; I think the score is maybe 10% too high, and it definitely has a lot of flaws and really basic architecture, but it's certainly not terrible, and it actually has some genuinely interesting stuff in it that I hadn't seen before in other maps.
Anyway since you're basically just trolling I've probably given you way more of a response than you deserve, but really, what the hell? If you honestly wanted to debate something, you sure picked the absolute worst approach to do so. And I can't even begin to figure out what the hell your last sentence (I use this term loosely for you) is supposed to mean.
Seriously have you even put the slightest amount of thought into this thread, or are you just trying to find some excuse to bitch at Scrag for what I can only assume is some personal vendetta? You go from harping about the score of a map to making personal character judgments in about a paragraph's worth of text.
Further, did you actually even play shivaxi's pack or, heaven forbid, read the readme? He acknowledges where he got the material and never claimed it was his own. And I don't know where you get the idea that it has no innovation just because he's used some assets and some geometry from other places. I won't say the pack is great; I think the score is maybe 10% too high, and it definitely has a lot of flaws and really basic architecture, but it's certainly not terrible, and it actually has some genuinely interesting stuff in it that I hadn't seen before in other maps.
Anyway since you're basically just trolling I've probably given you way more of a response than you deserve, but really, what the hell? If you honestly wanted to debate something, you sure picked the absolute worst approach to do so. And I can't even begin to figure out what the hell your last sentence (I use this term loosely for you) is supposed to mean.
- Mister_Prophet
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Subject: Re: Pardon me Scrag?
Post Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 05:21
Mick.B wrote:
...even the flashlight has been used at some Unreal coop servers. It is not like it was made for the pack.
I have also noticed some details like the ship in the intro is actually the ship found underwater in FHub4 in Unreal Beta version. It looked like the ship is new....
And Last Escape from Na Pali uses structures from Unreal. What's your point?
Mick.B wrote:
Do you have any justice in you anymore? I sometimes wonder so...
Are you really making a moral issue out of a 3% difference of score between two packs that rate just about (barely) average? If you just don't agree with the score then leave it at that. Everyone is gonna have their own opinions. That's doesn't make your point of view flawless either.
Mick.B wrote:Perhaps you do have it from your favorite Harry Potter books, or I really don't know.
Something in this speech reminds me of a certain poster who shouldn't be posting on this forum. Will the real Leo please stand up?
- TheIronKnuckle
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Post Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 06:16
LEO was a troll right? I think i remember reading some controversy over at the hellscrag.net hosted forums. He seems to be an OK guy over at BU, but he does seem to have a problem with pushing his revolutionary opinions on everyone in a less then flattering manner. I will respect his opinions, but you can't deny that he doesn't express them very well (As has been shown in this thread, if Mick.B is indeed leo).
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- Mister_Prophet
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Post Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 07:09
He wasn't banned for being a troll.
Only reason why I think this is because Mick.B and him are brothers (allegedly), and Leo has used his brother's account before in the past to post messages here. And this thread seems very reminiscent of the kind of thing Leo would say. I could be wrong.
Only reason why I think this is because Mick.B and him are brothers (allegedly), and Leo has used his brother's account before in the past to post messages here. And this thread seems very reminiscent of the kind of thing Leo would say. I could be wrong.
- Mick.B
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Post Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 10:08
Waffnuffly wrote:Oh no THREE WHOLE PERCENT more than another map pack?! HOW COULD HE
Seriously have you even put the slightest amount of thought into this thread, or are you just trying to find some excuse to bitch at Scrag for what I can only assume is some personal vendetta? You go from harping about the score of a map to making personal character judgments in about a paragraph's worth of text.
Further, did you actually even play shivaxi's pack or, heaven forbid, read the readme? He acknowledges where he got the material and never claimed it was his own. And I don't know where you get the idea that it has no innovation just because he's used some assets and some geometry from other places. I won't say the pack is great; I think the score is maybe 10% too high, and it definitely has a lot of flaws and really basic architecture, but it's certainly not terrible, and it actually has some genuinely interesting stuff in it that I hadn't seen before in other maps.
Anyway since you're basically just trolling I've probably given you way more of a response than you deserve, but really, what the hell? If you honestly wanted to debate something, you sure picked the absolute worst approach to do so. And I can't even begin to figure out what the hell your last sentence (I use this term loosely for you) is supposed to mean.
Play Redeem your Space and you will see some of these things done in a more professional manner.
And yes I am Leo...
Yes I know that Last escape used Unreal geometry as well, but it was obvious. My point is that last escape is a real pack. while this project is something else, it is Shivaxi's personal world. Oh and I have read this pack readme and I even know Shivaxi myself from Unreal coop.
In fact I can accuse this whole forum of bullies against me and terror (I coun especially sana for that). And you still keep terrozizing some of my friends here it seems (although how I look now, not a lot of posters here nowadays anyway).
This place is nothing it used to be in the past. Guess why these mappers who have joined when I used to post here (shinigami and madmartigan) more often are not here anymore.
Conclusion: You are all nuts, this is a place with seeds for anti semitism, hatred towards minority, hacker activities, as was shown in past with mr.blowtatoes, Hellscrag unbanned him instead of me and why, just to let him go his propaganda around again? No way that's not fair my friends. You have cheated on ME.
Besides it was not my idea to post here as Mick.B after all. I have also done it mainly to stay in contact with some friends here.
The happenings that happened after the certain day, it all happened because of the pressure (and because one certain memember accused me that I violated every rule except...you know what) and certainly not my fault, the person who have posted these links and proposed the whole thing have took full responsibility for that, besides I was easily influenced under that state I was in back then. And you banned me for like nothing before the forum crash anyway so.
But that's going to end, I will build my own site for Unreal singleplayer projects where there will be no consenciousnal grandneness, but real terms.
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