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UnrealSP.org: Development hiatus

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Subject: Re: UnrealSP.org: End of service(?)

Post Posted: 01 Nov 2019, 04:16

We've had Q&A with very specific Unreal-related questions, and changed them quite often. Things like "What is the name of the starship in which you start the game?", "What is the name of the race of enslaved humanoids on the planet?", "What is the name of the planet on which you crash in the game?", and every time it was newly inserted, there would be a day or two of peace, before the registrations came back.

If I had to hazard a guess, I'd assume that new Q&A are occasionally processed by real humans, and entered into databases which can then be used by the bots. Or it is real humans that register, and later the accounts are used by bots. I cannot explain it otherwise.
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Subject: Re: UnrealSP.org: End of service(?)

Post Posted: 01 Nov 2019, 11:02

ividyon wrote:...
If I had to hazard a guess, I'd assume that new Q&A are occasionally processed by real humans, and entered into databases which can then be used by the bots.

That is a known problem and will always be inavoidable. But using that in combination with the NRU group should prevent most of those polluting the forums. There will always be some "work" for the admin :wink:

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Subject: Re: UnrealSP.org: End of service(?)

Post Posted: 01 Nov 2019, 19:24

I did a search, and I don't see a database with UnrealSP.org logins stored. this may be the work of a small group of people that perhaps were banned from here, and held a grudge. the fake logins should be able to be banned by IP addresses, though.. using proxies or VPN's seems too complicated to be spamming here, there's no monetary gain for them here, just upsetting the site..

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Subject: Re: UnrealSP.org: End of service(?)

Post Posted: 01 Nov 2019, 19:50

radios wrote:I did a search, and I don't see a database with UnrealSP.org logins stored.

And it's a good thing the database isn't visible to visitors :lol:

radios wrote:this may be the work of a small group of people that perhaps were banned from here, and held a grudge. the fake logins should be able to be banned by IP addresses, though.. using proxies or VPN's seems too complicated to be spamming here, there's no monetary gain for them here, just upsetting the site..

There are known bots whose useragent can be used to identify them as members (and permissions can be set for those)
There are recognised bots who are treated as guest because they are not in the database. and do no harm.
Then there are rogue bots and then there are humans. It the latter group who could be a PITA if they choose to, certainly not ex-members as these would be identified easily.

On the contrary, humans will use lots and lots of untransparent proxies and chaining (probaly less VPN because that usually involves payment)

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Subject: Re: UnrealSP.org: End of service(?)

Post Posted: 01 Nov 2019, 20:38

salsaSkaarj wrote:
radios wrote:I did a search, and I don't see a database with UnrealSP.org logins stored.

And it's a good thing the database isn't visible to visitors :lol:

radios wrote:this may be the work of a small group of people that perhaps were banned from here, and held a grudge. the fake logins should be able to be banned by IP addresses, though.. using proxies or VPN's seems too complicated to be spamming here, there's no monetary gain for them here, just upsetting the site..

there are humans. It the latter group who could be a PITA if they choose to, certainly not ex-members as these would be identified easily.

On the contrary, humans will use lots and lots of untransparent proxies and chaining (probaly less VPN because that usually involves payment)
I used to be a Super Moderator on an unrelated site, with well over 3 MILLION members, and I can tell you that ex members can not always be identified, except by their posting style, I used to get them by that, I was very good at recognizing by posting style.. you have to think WHY would someone spam UnrealSP.org?. there has to be a good motivation for that!.. there's no money or access to something valuable here, except what's freely available to registered members.. even then, everything posted is available to guests, too.. so. motivation is the key here..

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Subject: Re: UnrealSP.org: End of service(?)

Post Posted: 03 Nov 2019, 08:13

well if this site ever goes down, i hope it will be archived.

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Subject: Re: UnrealSP.org: Development hiatus

Post Posted: 03 Nov 2019, 13:15

Enough donations have flown in to prolong the domain's lifetime, though it is telling that despite all the claims of interest in the site's future, there were only 3 contributions over 2 weeks.

I am changing the name of the thread from "End of service". Whatever the results of this discussion, the site will not be shutting down.
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Subject: Re: UnrealSP.org: Development hiatus

Post Posted: 04 Nov 2019, 02:48

I doubt very much that individuals would target USP over a grudge, at least in the degree it exceeds a level mods can't deal with. The forum gets bots because forums are often weak targets. In the scope of possible attacks, bots are mostly a nuisance compared to what could happen. I've expressed before the most demanding option would be continuing the forums with the goal of revitalizing them and security is precisely why. If someone is determined to carry this baton it's going to mean keeping up with the news on a regular basis to stay ahead of developments that could have a negative consequence.
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Subject: Re: UnrealSP.org: Development hiatus

Post Posted: 06 Nov 2019, 23:27

ividyon wrote:Enough donations have flown in to prolong the domain's lifetime, though it is telling that despite all the claims of interest in the site's future, there were only 3 contributions over 2 weeks.

I am changing the name of the thread from "End of service". Whatever the results of this discussion, the site will not be shutting down.
sadly, not many members can afford $9.95/year. that is the reason why..

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