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PostPosted: 21 Oct 2010, 22:20     Post subject: Fallout New Vegas
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So, if you haven't heard from me the last few days...or if you expect to hear from me much for the next few months, and I don't respond very much...

You can blame this game. I would advise anyone who enjoys the productivity of free time to avoid this one like the plague. Because you will not want to put it down.

However, for those who liked Fallout 3 and enjoy the series in general...


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PostPosted: 22 Oct 2010, 02:47     Post subject: Re: Fallout New Vegas
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I find anything published by Bethesda to be too addicting for my taste. I recently tried starting a new character on Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind and realized a week later that I was spending way too much of my free time and basically halted playing it after that point. Incidentally, the same exact thing happened when I played Fallout 3 for the first time on the xbox. I got sick of the game simply because I was spending way too much time and becoming addicted, so I halted and haven't continued since.

But yeah, it looks like a great game...............


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PostPosted: 22 Oct 2010, 17:15     Post subject: Re: Fallout New Vegas
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Maybe it's time I tried Fallout, I hear nothing but good things about the game. How many expansion packs are there Prof?


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PostPosted: 22 Oct 2010, 17:21     Post subject: Re: Fallout New Vegas
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Sarevok wrote:
Maybe it's time I tried Fallout, I hear nothing but good things about the game. How many expansion packs are there Prof?

The only Fallout with "expansions" is 3 with DLC, and they all come with the Game of the Year Edition anyway (I'm not sure whether the standard edition is even on sale anymore).


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PostPosted: 22 Oct 2010, 21:07     Post subject: Re: Fallout New Vegas
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Mman wrote:
The only Fallout with "expansions" is 3 with DLC, and they all come with the Game of the Year Edition anyway (I'm not sure whether the standard edition is even on sale anymore).


^This. Fallout 3 GOTY comes with the five DLCs and includes the extra ten level cap and new enemies.

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PostPosted: 25 Oct 2010, 12:56     Post subject: Re: Fallout New Vegas
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Is it much better than F3? F3 is probably my most hated game ever, for a number of reasons, main being:

  • Awful bad writing, same dialogues over and over (who are you? what are you doing here? - why should i care who are these wasteland scam and what they are doing?)
  • It had great detail but everything was grey - so what was the point of making all that detail if you couldnt tell apart anything?
  • Bad animations or simply lack of them - unfortunately that goes with all Bethesda games. It was 2007 when F3 was released, Bethesda had been around for more than a decade i think and they still hadnt learned how to make animations.
  • Lack of intriguing story - i had to find my father, but what for? why? i didnt care for him as a player. thats why i liked The Witcher so much, because being a huge RPG game it also had great story and characters and i wanted to see what will happen next all the time.


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PostPosted: 25 Oct 2010, 14:01     Post subject: Re: Fallout New Vegas
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Who cares for the story. Let alone the character graphics.
This is not the game for you.

whatever :c
Goddamn I tried New Vegas it's fucking awesome as expected. Not GOTY like FO3 because Castlevania LoS is just so LOVE.

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PostPosted: 25 Oct 2010, 23:21     Post subject: Re: Fallout New Vegas
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Anreel wrote:
Is it much better than F3? F3 is probably my most hated game ever, for a number of reasons, main being:

  • Awful bad writing, same dialogues over and over (who are you? what are you doing here?


Awful bad writing? I'll agree that the voice acting and the level of emotional investment involved in any line spoken is pretty stiff for contemporary gaming, and the characters are hardly animated well for speaking. That's more of a consequence of the RPG/Adventure genre than anything else, where the character interaction is based on meeting and conversation, and also how Bethesda handles their character interactions. No character is as well structured in a conversation as say, Mass Effect, although keeping the protagonist quiet in the Fallout games is something I prefer.

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- why should i care who are these wasteland scam and what they are doing?)


That's kind of the point of the game. You're presented with an open world with different factions and groups and you're free to interact with them however you wish, and for how long. For example, you can simply kill everyone if you that's the way you want to go.

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  • It had great detail but everything was grey - so what was the point of making all that detail if you couldnt tell apart anything?


  • You mean the wasteland? I actually really liked the post apocalyptic look to FO3. I usually tire of the whole gray/tan washout when movies do this kind of genre and a lot of games do it too, but in THIS game it works out really well. It's also not true in all cases for all environments you can visit, but for the most part you are wandering around in an area that was the victim of a nuclear holocaust. How is it supposed to look?


    Anreel wrote:
  • Bad animations or simply lack of them - unfortunately that goes with all Bethesda games. It was 2007 when F3 was released, Bethesda had been around for more than a decade i think and they still hadnt learned how to make animations.


  • Yeah none of that has really changed for New Vegas. I will say that characters are animated better for when they are wounded and when they take a strong hit, and the drunk characters are humorously done. But for the most part it's similar.


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  • Lack of intriguing story - i had to find my father, but what for? why? i didnt care for him as a player. thats why i liked The Witcher so much, because being a huge RPG game it also had great story and characters and i wanted to see what will happen next all the time.


  • It's no secret that the main quest was the weakest part of the game, but luckily that only accounts for 10% of the game experience, as you can ignore the main storyline in lieu of the many other, more interesting side quests and general exploration.

    Yeah, I've said this before. If you didn't like Fallout 3 you probably won't like New Vegas.

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    PostPosted: 26 Oct 2010, 04:32     Post subject: Re: Fallout New Vegas
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    "Oblivion" for me.I switched to Godmode weeks ago, and these are saves from a year ago.
    I quit again for a while

    After playing, it makes me now question the quality of the Unreal 3d engine, Oblivion seems better in tons of ways.It has everything and it could make a DM map as good or better than UT3.

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    PostPosted: 26 Oct 2010, 13:31     Post subject: Re: Fallout New Vegas
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    Buggy Oblivion Engine is better than UE3 only in your dreams.
    Then comparing to the UT3 version is just :|

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    PostPosted: 27 Oct 2010, 00:09     Post subject: Re: Fallout New Vegas
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    UBerserker wrote:
    Buggy Oblivion Engine is better than UE3 only in your dreams.
    Then comparing to the UT3 version is just :|


    Dunno, but after playing Oblivion for a good while started me thinking, Unreal engine ain't all that great.

    Disregarding anything to do with team games, they can take that crap out.Even The Ball has the same look, or Bioshock.
    It just seems to have a generic "D3D" look.Oblivion size map I don't think could even run on UT3.

    Make me a map that uses all the goodies, to the tune of GTA SA.
    wont work.

    Not that I think UT3 engine is bad, it just looks too predictable.

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    PostPosted: 27 Oct 2010, 00:19     Post subject: Re: Fallout New Vegas
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    Gamebryo is good at something, crashing included.

    With UE3 you can make everything. Sure, you need to license the engine to do what you want, but I think you can get similar results with UDK.

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    PostPosted: 27 Oct 2010, 17:16     Post subject: Re: Fallout New Vegas
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    redeye wrote:
    UBerserker wrote:
    Oblivion size map I don't think could even run on UT3.

    Make me a map that uses all the goodies, to the tune of GTA SA.
    wont work.


    It will. It's called level streaming. Oblivion's maps are 8 times smaller than any UT3 map. The engine just loads 4 of them at once. You can do that in Unreal Engine 3. And it will look better.

    http://udn.epicgames.com/Three/LevelStreamingHowTo.html

    OH! Ever played Planetstorm mod for UT3? It looks somewhat different and has things that Oblivion can't do for shit. really, check it out. Try and steer a space frigate. Then board enemy's frigate and destroy it's core.


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    PostPosted: 27 Oct 2010, 17:55     Post subject: Re: Fallout New Vegas
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    Qtit wrote:
    redeye wrote:
    UBerserker wrote:
    Oblivion size map I don't think could even run on UT3.

    Make me a map that uses all the goodies, to the tune of GTA SA.
    wont work.


    It will. It's called level streaming. Oblivion's maps are 8 times smaller than any UT3 map. The engine just loads 4 of them at once. You can do that in Unreal Engine 3. And it will look better.

    http://udn.epicgames.com/Three/LevelStreamingHowTo.html

    OH! Ever played Planetstorm mod for UT3? It looks somewhat different and has things that Oblivion can't do for shit. really, check it out. Try and steer a space frigate. Then board enemy's frigate and destroy it's core.



    I must see it.

    Basically I have little use for UT3, if they made it a regular game like Unreal, while adding the multi, is I wish they did that really bad.
    All UT3 is to me is more or less a demo for the engine.

    Then I get frustrated in the editor trying to move around, I haven't studied it, but I need to unlock something.I was moving, I ckicked something and don't know WTF I'm doing-did.
    Then the "package" BS, locking away stuff as if it matters.
    Then win7 using the other drive for files really pisses me off.
    So i need to go through a whole week of learning how to edit the ini's to have UT3 store things on my other drive, sux.

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    PostPosted: 27 Oct 2010, 19:53     Post subject: Re: Fallout New Vegas
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    Haha, I'd like to see you dealing with the Oblivion's editor. God that was a pain.


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